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Chapter Meeting Minutes 19 May 2010

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Location: 7225 north central ave. east syracuse 13057
19 May 2010 10:02am

Members present: 27 and the staff of D&W.
ESM – George Toper Avoca CSD – Wayne Hoffman & Michael Fether
Onon CSD – Paul Abend Sandy Creek CSD – Ed Hess J-D Thomas Scott
Liverpool – Bob Duquette & Jerry Ratliff Bus Part Warehouse – Mike White
Matthews Buses – John Metzler, Bob Learned, & Tony Morgese
Newark – Andy Fisher Clyde Savannah – Jeremy Barnes
Cortland – Keith Sutliff Lansing – Don Brown Dryden – Harlan Pudney Jr.
F-M – John Cunningham & Don Piddock Leonard Bus Sales – Wayne Kobler
Chittenango – John Van Antwerp & John Dhayer NY DOT R-2 – Bob Carey
Oswego – Bill Myer & Bill Sharky Phelps-Clifton Springs – Roger Spafford
Cato-Meridian – Kevin Dattler

Meeting called to order by Central Chapter president Ed Hess.

Pledge of Allegiance was led by president.

Thank you to D&W for their continued support and for sponsorship and refreshments for this meeting.

Reading of the minutes of the Central Chapter, 14 April 2010 meeting were presented for approval. Motion made to accept, seconded, and accepted.

Treasures report submitted and read for approval:
Checking $1169.58 reported from record, no statement received as of the day.
Savings $8377.63 reported from record, no statement received as of this day.
Checks written #226 = Postmaster stamps for Summer Seminar
#227 = Staples for saving account record book
Both these checks funds will be transferred from summer seminar saving account.
Motion made to accept, seconded, and accepted.

Old Business; None reported

New Business; Elections of offices of 2nd vice-president, two nominations received Keith Sitliff of Cortland SD and Don Brown of Lansing CSD. Keith advised those present of his decline of office. Motion made by 1st vice-president Thomas Scott for the secretary to cast 1 ballot for Don Brown as 2nd Vice-president, seconded and accepted. No nominations were presented for the office of Secretary/Treasurer, 1st vice-president Thomas Scott cast 1 ballot for George Toper to be reelected to this position. Motion made to accept, seconded, and accepted. This election office will be effective as of October meeting.

• WEB Page: No problems reported many districts and companies have not registered as of this date, if you need assistance contact Bob Duquette or Harlan Pudney. If you need your information posted and do not have access to a computer contact ether of the above members to have you information added.
• Summer Seminar; Harlan noted that that the Summer Seminar is 22 July 2010, and that D&W, DOT, and 2 fuel programs are to be the presenters. Many vendors have registered and only a few attendance registration forms have been received, DMV, DOT and other state will be represented. Please get the attendance forms submitted as soon as possible. Del from D&W has requested that if there is any special training material that needs to be covered they should contact Del as soon as possible.
• Sick Call; None reported
• DOT; Bob Carey reported that some Thomas rear engine 05 and 06’s have experienced some problems with a heater control of the front heater, these have had some fires reported. The DOT with the financial problems with the state budget advised that the priority of inspections are as follows, 1st regular scheduled inspections, 2nd re-inspections, and 3rd new unit initial inspection. GPS units & mapping need to be approved by DOT to receive state aid on them. Exhaust wrap defect is to be an “A” defect when found. Discussion took place on this. If there are any questions contact Bob or your inspector.
• State HMA; Harlan reported that the meeting at state level in April, has produced some items of interest, “school bus” signs may be of reflective material if legislation is accepted, Fire Suppression systems will be retro-fit back to on, New system for fire suppression on wheel chair buses has a estimated cost of $1000.00 - $1200.00. Recharge is $40.00 to $800.00. October 2011 3-point seat belts will be required. Discussion on state aid and the costs of school buses, and the cost of options that are ordered. Have a good line of communication with your DOT inspector, if you find yourself with a problem contact Harlan.

Vendor Information;
• Matthews Buses good report and If you need something contact them.
• Leonard Bus Sales, everything is going well, contact them if you need them.
• Bus Parts Warehouse: Mike White introduced himself as the new sales person of the Bus Parts Warehouse organization.

Round Table:
• Wayne of Avoca stated that they have attempted to increase the size of the right front mud flap to protect the exhaust pipe wrap damage.
• Don Brown has attempted to install a metal shield to protect his, it was noted that all add on should be approved.
• Thomas Scott expressed his thanks to Liverpool and Leonard Bus Sales for their assistance with a break down of one their units in the Liverpool area.
• Bob Duquette thanked Ed Hess for the past two years of serving as president of the Central Chapter, everyone gave a round of applause, Bob also noted to Ed that he has a position on the Board of Directors of the HMA
• Board of Directors meeting is to be held on May 25 2010 at Liverpool Transportation center, time is 10:00 am.
• Don Brown noted that he has had an issue on a 06 Uplander dash lights replacement; the whole dash assembly had to be replaced due to unavailable bulbs.
• Keith noted that United Radio repaired a fuel gauge on an Impala dash for $150.00 and a very fast turn around of repair.
• 07 Cummins air compressor failure due to unload valve failed & purge valve too slow and would not build air, worst in cooler weather Intake dirt EGR to intake to compressor possible problem. Had to pump down to get full recycle.
• Bill of Oswego noted that 05, 466, failure of EGR system has caused a turbo failure due to build up of foreign material inside and corroding linkages. Inside replacement parts are available at a lot less cost then replacement turbo. Ford 6 cylinder had problem also. Presented a steering wheel cover of “out of service” units when drivers attempt to use vehicle when down.
• Roger noted that they were very satisfied with the installation and professional job done with the camera installation by Angle Trak.
• Kevin had a 05 DT 466 oil supply hose that had a small leak that created a large mess under the hood, this hose is rated at 5000 psi , he recommended that this hose should be replaced some of the 06’s have them also more info, it was noted that 03 and new are the effected.
• Harlan noted that there will be a Partnership meeting in Albany so anyone that has any concerns should contact him, DOT, DMV, and other are scheduled to attend. This has helped in better inner-commutations between the departments that we work with. Discussion on the problem of one area of the state that has an issue with and the other areas not being informed.

Next meeting is scheduled for Bus Parts Warehouse on October 20, 2010 and email and /or letter will be sent as October approaches.

Motion made for adjournment of this meeting, seconded, and accepted.

Thanks to all the other attending chapter members for participating in this meeting.

Thanks again to D&W for sponsoring this meeting and their continued support.
D&W offered a tour of their faculty and also had many of their staff present to report on the services offered and the information on many items of interest.

George F Toper
Central Chapter NYHMA

NOTE: All information is as it is heard and recorded, any errors, additions, and/or corrections please notify the secretary gtoper@esmschools.org or centralchapterhma@live.com
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